Friends,I am currently doing my neurosurgical residency in the All India Institute Of Medical Sciences(AIIMS),New Delhi,India.I`ll be completing in Nov,2008.And I desperately need YOUR HELP
(AIIMS is the one of the best academic institutions,inc NSG,in this part of the world.I`m not exaggerating if I`m telling you that it would easily qualify to be a good medical school in US).

1.Can I get into any good fellowship programs in the US?(like Hopkins,Harvard,etc)
2.What do I need to do to get in?
3.Can I bring my wife along with me?(pre-mature to think???)
4.Anything you want to tell me-I`m all ears!!

N.B:-Friends,my first language wasn`t english,so ignore any mistakes I might`ve inadvertently made.

Anonymous User - 11 May 2008 11:07 PM

Friends,I am currently doing my neurosurgical residency in the All India Institute Of Medical Sciences(AIIMS),New Delhi,India.I`ll be completing in Nov,2008.And I desperately need YOUR HELP
(AIIMS is the one of the best academic institutions,inc NSG,in this part of the world.I`m not exaggerating if I`m telling you that it would easily qualify to be a good medical school in US).


1.Can I get into any good fellowship programs in the US?(like Hopkins,Harvard,etc)
2.What do I need to do to get in?
3.Can I bring my wife along with me?(pre-mature to think???)
4.Anything you want to tell me-I`m all ears!!

N.B:-Friends,my first language wasn`t english,so ignore any mistakes I might`ve inadvertently made.

Hello my new friend,
I’m not exaggerating when I tell you that you can NOT be serious.  Hopkins...Harvard!!!!???  It is wonderful that you regard AIIMS as equivalent to a great US medical school but there is one problem you are facing....No one in the US buys that for a second or gives a crap.  You wont get a spot in neurosurgery without putting in your time.  ie YEARS of research, multiple publications in quality journals and quite frankly you will have to lose your Indian accent.  If you want a position at a top tier insitution there are plenty of opportunities to work in research labs for little cash though. 

Oh and by the way your Indian residency counts for nothing over here. 

One thousand and one apologies, thank you and come again.

It will be near impossible to get into a fellowship program in the United States, unless you are aiming for one of those that are habitually left open (e.g. Pediatric neurosurgery).

Most foreign grads that are fellows are here because 1) they recompleted 7 years of residency in the United States, or 2) are well-accomplished neurosurgeons with years of experience in their home countries.

You are going to find it very difficult to get into the door here without putting some time in here (via residency or research) first.

AIIMS has a great neurosurgery department, and I do agree that it is at par with many US programs. That being said, it is next to impossible for you to get a top fellowship right off the bat. Foreign residencies for the most part are not recognized, and most fellowships specifically require an ACGME certified residency in neurosurgery. Best case scenario for you is to come to the US for a research fellowship, wow the pants off everyone with your strong experience from AIIMS, and then get into a top-notch residency here in the states. Only then can you really even think about a fellowship in the US. Frankly, if I were you, I’d stay in India. I’ve been there and I’ve seen what they do, and I think you can make a world of difference there. Considering the increase in medical tourism, you may be treating Americans sooner than later.

Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 06:18 AM

Anonymous User - 11 May 2008 11:07 PM

Friends,I am currently doing my neurosurgical residency in the All India Institute Of Medical Sciences(AIIMS),New Delhi,India.I`ll be completing in Nov,2008.And I desperately need YOUR HELP
(AIIMS is the one of the best academic institutions,inc NSG,in this part of the world.I`m not exaggerating if I`m telling you that it would easily qualify to be a good medical school in US).


1.Can I get into any good fellowship programs in the US?(like Hopkins,Harvard,etc)
2.What do I need to do to get in?
3.Can I bring my wife along with me?(pre-mature to think???)
4.Anything you want to tell me-I`m all ears!!

N.B:-Friends,my first language wasn`t english,so ignore any mistakes I might`ve inadvertently made.

Hello my new friend,
I’m not exaggerating when I tell you that you can NOT be serious.  Hopkins...Harvard!!!!???  It is wonderful that you regard AIIMS as equivalent to a great US medical school but there is one problem you are facing....No one in the US buys that for a second or gives a crap.  You wont get a spot in neurosurgery without putting in your time.  ie YEARS of research, multiple publications in quality journals and quite frankly you will have to lose your Indian accent.  If you want a position at a top tier insitution there are plenty of opportunities to work in research labs for little cash though. 

Oh and by the way your Indian residency counts for nothing over here. 

One thousand and one apologies, thank you and come again.

Now you must have realized, this is the best site you can get
information about US neurosurgery training
Dont get intimidated.. most of these replies are by 3/4 grade medical students( believe me , they
wont know where is the sylvian fissure in the body)
If you are interested in fellowship training in USA, try to contact
some of the senior internationally known US neurosurgeons
your best shot will be like meeting them in conferences and discuss .
You can meet some of them during this year skull base conference at Mumbai
See if you can make your chairman to talk to them as well
meanwhile get your USMLE and ECFMG certification done
If you pass your USMLE step CS, you can keep whatever accent you have
It is difficult, but it is possible

Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 11:43 AM

If you pass your USMLE step CS, you can keep whatever accent you have
It is difficult, but it is possible

Accent = autofail on CS, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

BR41N5 - 12 May 2008 11:02 AM

AIIMS has a great neurosurgery department, and I do agree that it is at par with many US programs. That being said, it is next to impossible for you to get a top fellowship right off the bat. Foreign residencies for the most part are not recognized, and most fellowships specifically require an ACGME certified residency in neurosurgery. Best case scenario for you is to come to the US for a research fellowship, wow the pants off everyone with your strong experience from AIIMS, and then get into a top-notch residency here in the states. Only then can you really even think about a fellowship in the US. Frankly, if I were you, I’d stay in India. I’ve been there and I’ve seen what they do, and I think you can make a world of difference there. Considering the increase in medical tourism, you may be treating Americans sooner than later.

I understand the difficulty but coming over there for research fellowship, spending quite a bit of time there and then getting into residency after having spent 6 years in the NSG residency at AIIMS is sth very...........Won`t clearing MLE with good scores along with CS(ya, including improving my accent) help me a bit or take me closer????

Is there any ideal case or CV which makes fellowship @ top-notch institutions in NSG a reality??
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Certainly nothing is set in stone, and you’re free to apply for any fellowship. I would recommend that you spend some time in India doing some research and getting a strong publication record to compete with other American residents applying for the same spot.

International Funding Opportunities
Fellowship in Surgical Neurooncology:

Toronto Western Hospital , University of Toronto :

Two one-year funded Surgical Neurooncology Fellowships are available to North American and International trained neurosurgeons, from WHO accredited institutions.

The fellow will have combined exposure to four neurosurgical staff at the Toronto Western Hospital , who have overlapping but also distinct clinical and research interests.

Dr. Bernstein: Awake craniotomy; intra-axial tumours; outpatient surgery; Gamma Knife radiosurgery; bioethics;

Dr. Gentili: Skull base tumours; pituitary tumours; intra-axial tumours; endoscopic surgery; Gamma Knife radiosurgery;

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To apply to the July 1st slot for the following year, the decision for which is made around late October of the current year, please send by e-mail:

1- CV

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Final acceptance will require a contractual agreement between yourself and the Department of Surgery Fellowship Program at University of Toronto .

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Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 11:43 AM

(believe me , they
wont know where is the sylvian fissure in the body)

The sylvian fissure is in the body??

Anonymous User - 13 May 2008 09:19 AM

Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 11:43 AM

(believe me , they
wont know where is the sylvian fissure in the body)

The sylvian fissure is in the body??

you can beleive me when I say this.  this man spreads his sylvian fissure so his buddy can insert his vermis it to it.  what a gandu.

Check out the clinical fellowship at the University of Washington in Seattle. They’ve got a very good program and the clinical fellowship is set up for foreign graduates like yourself.

http://depts.washington.edu/neurosur/residency/fellows.html#clinical

Anonymous User - 13 May 2008 10:11 AM

Anonymous User - 13 May 2008 09:19 AM

Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 11:43 AM

(believe me , they
wont know where is the sylvian fissure in the body)

The sylvian fissure is in the body??

you can beleive me when I say this.  this man spreads his sylvian fissure so his buddy can insert his vermis it to it.  what a gandu.

You got it my son, except one -I am a woman
You should definitely apply for residency in coming years
you are my bright son, I am proud of you
Now stop goofing around here- open your books and start studying honey

Anonymous User - 13 May 2008 10:11 AM

Anonymous User - 13 May 2008 09:19 AM

Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 11:43 AM

(believe me , they
wont know where is the sylvian fissure in the body)

The sylvian fissure is in the body??

you can beleive me when I say this.  this man spreads his sylvian fissure so his buddy can insert his vermis it to it.  what a gandu.

I love to have your vermis too, but for your dandy walker malformation

Hi,

Some of the more thoughtful responses above state the obvious: it is hard for a foreign NS to come to the US. However, it is much easier to do a fellowship than a residency as a foreigner. “Big names” in NS have accepted foreigners and continue to do so, not because they cannot “get any better” but because of the applicant’s merit. Names include Delashaw, van Loveren, Al-Mefty, Berenstein (not the one above but the endovascular guru), Rutka (although that is technically not US but nevertheless heads one of the best Peds fellowships), Tew, Kline, Rhoton, Heros, Black, Sawaya and the list goes on and on and on. These are not neurosurgeons / radiologist who get only one application a year but can pick their candidate.

You will see responses that will pick apart each mentioned attending but my point remains: It is possible to get a fellowship if you have taken the proper board exams. The CS exam is NOT to assess whether or not you have an accent but whether you are able to communicate with patients. Scoring high on USMLE always helps.

Therefore, give it a shot. The highly sought after fellowships are given away years in advance so keep that in mind.

Good luck and please disregard the rude and discouraging comments made by medical students above.

Namaste.

Anonymous User - 12 May 2008 11:43 AM

most of these replies are by 3/4 grade medical students

That’s right, we are all in 3rd and 4th grade.  You have discovered the secret.  He is another cultural tip for you: when Americans talk about “junior residents”, they actually mean “junior high school”.