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Programs that support PhD work? 
Posted: 17 October 2009 02:39 PM  
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Joined  2009-06-12

Hi, I did a search but couldn’t find the answer to my question. Do most programs support MD applicants who are interested in getting a PhD during residency? If so, does that tack on another 3-4 years or can it be integrated into the residency program as such? I remember seeing VCU’s program website at some point, which mentioned the possibility of obtaining a PhD within the 7 years of training (but I’m not sure if that’s an outdated site or whether that’s the standard approach at most programs).

Also, would it be detrimental/neutral/beneficial to mention this interest during interviews? Thanks.

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Posted: 18 October 2009 09:29 AM  
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Joined  2008-02-22

I’m an MD PhD student, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but I know several attendings at my program that got a PhD during residency.  I think they were trained at Univ. Washington and at Pitt.  Both said they were given 3 years to get a PhD.  This is nice, because you won’t become the floundering grad student that gets lost in the lab for 6 years.  At the same time, both also still had some clinical duties during the PhD years and thus they said it was an extremely hectic 3 years.  They are attendings now, so I can’t vouch for the current PhD policies at Washington or Pitt.  Overall, I get the impression that residents getting a PhD take on a very focused project with a definitive light at the end of the tunnel.  In other words, they take on a project that shouldn’t take as long as a traditional thesis. 

In terms of will it help, (again, just a student so read with caution), but I’ve noticed that the rotating students at my program who have strong research experience or expressed interest in research are the most noticed by the attendings.  Departments always want to train academic surgeons, so stating an interest in getting a PhD would probably help, especially at more research oriented programs.

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Posted: 28 November 2009 08:46 AM  
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Joined  2009-11-28

At UCLA, there is a program for residents that allows for PhD training during residency. One of their faculty members, Linda Liau, did it when she was a resident. They currently have one resident getting his PhD in neuroscience during training-- he is in his second year.

There was a recent resident at UW who received his PhD during residency. There is a long track record of this at UW.

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